Bonus | Doomsday+Ye Olde Crime Podcast Crossover Extravaganza

Hello, and welcome to Your Crime, where we discuss the funny, strange, and obscure crimes of yesteryear. I'm your host, Lindsay Valenti, and with me is my sister and co host Nattie Stangel. Hello. We are also joined by one of my favorite people in the entire universe, Brad from Tuesday. Yeah you are, it's my new thing. It works like an affirmation. Yes, yes it is. And this is going to be the most epic crossover ever because we are going to be discussing the Aldgate Pump of Death, which sounds like a title from my show right away it does. What year might that be? This is mid to late eighteen hundreds? Awesome, So this is a long, long time of this pump. Without even saying the word pump, you say mid to late eighteen hundreds, and I already know this is. This is already the worst grossest episode I've ever heard. You haven't said a word about it yet, all right, buckle up, Maddie. Yep. Information was pulled from the following sources. A twenty twenty one Living London History article by Jack Cheshire, twenty eighteen Ian Visits post by Ian Mansfield, twenty seventeen Look Up London article twenty eleven, Spittlefield's Life article, Alice Obscura, the Heritage of London Trust Historic UK article by Ben Johnson, and two Wikipedia links. Thanks and links to all of these articles will be included in the show notes. Don't look at them, don't look for the pictures. Burn it. If you travel to London and want to check out a truly horrifying reminder of a dark and disgusting time in its history, look no further than where the corners of Fenchurch and that Leadenhall Streets meet up with ald Gate Hyde Street to feast your eyes on the infamous all Gate pump. So it's an actual pump. It's an actual pump, like a water pump. Oh I already don't like this. Yeah, yep, no god keeping and water pump in the city. Yep. Great. I'm gonna slide out of my chair just thinking about the handle. Yeah, it gets better. We haven't even like really started yet. I know. It's the worst part. The pump itself has not always been at this location, but the well that the pump drew its water from has been there since at least the twelve hundreds during the reign of King John, accessing one of London's mini underground streams. In fact, it predates the bulk of the drinking fountains and cattle troughs that still exist around London today. I wish the audience could see what Tottie and I look like right now. I'm just I'm more offended that they are drinking founds that still exists that we're kind of from this time. Nice burn it down. It's like, I need to know which ones they are before I go. Anybody hear the exactly they just highlight. These were built when you didn't want them to be no touching. These are not water bottle friendly pumps. This is this is when you don't reduce streams. So we we're all in agreement already without still a damn thing. This is the most haunted bump. Like if you could, if you were so sensitive, you would just see people standing around and going no, I turned back if I were you don't breathe it in. This well was part of a survey of London in fifteen ninety eight by John Stowe. In his survey, he mentions the well within all Gate as being near the gibbet where the Bailiff of Romford was executed. So this well was like right next to where a guy was gibbeted, which is great. Yeah, you go right ahead gibbeted. Yeah, what's what's a gibbet what's gibbeting is where they would put people in the cage. Remember they put their dead body in the cage and hang the cage there until the body rotted away. Oh I know that one the pieces the pieces fall off and they're all like, gibbet yeah, yep, yep, I want an ankle, give me that night I got is tibia? Nope, nope, dope, don't do yep. So that was by the well, just keeping things great. It's a start of aquaphobia. How many finger bones and loose arrant teeth do you think they would find if they dug up that well? That just sort of I wonder if they would consider them like good luck tokens, Like oh I got a tooth of my water. If I got an eight hundred year old tooth, I might I don't know if the root still has blood on it, I don't know how excited it might be. Less less so I know how much scited it i'd be I'd be less so less excited. Yes, I'd be like, you know, I don't need a bathe today or drink every said don't, so I'm just gonna put more powder on my face. Yep, can I yeah? Can I interject? I did an episode in this time period in England, and the church considered bathing sinful, and so the most prideful people may once a month dip themselves lightly into some kind of bucket of water up to the armpits maybe armpits, maybe not, and then come right back out and that's it. And then if they were wealthy, they would take flower petals and just smash them in their armpits, you know, just just get them in there, get them all around, and then that was that was that was that was it. That was hygiene. I mean they didn't soap wasn't a thing yet. Shampoo wasn't a thing yet, conditioner wasn't a thing. Toothpaste wasn't a thing yet. Combs weren't things yet. That's why wigs were so big and they were so gross, because people had lice, and so they'd have to like shave their heads and where wigs are their own episode by the most Yeah, yeah, wigs are discussed. We covered wigs and they are nasty. You know what I said at the end of my episode about this horrific period in time was that I know how many people are just head over heels in love with this time period and all things Victorian and just the romance of it. But I'm telling you, Jane Eyre smelled worse than anything you've ever sat beside on a bus or a subway. Yeah, any day of the week. And they're like, where do you want to what would you time travel too? It's like nowhere I die immediately? Are you It's called the walking curse until like nineteen twelve, right, don't. No, I want to go into the future where I don't need to worry about it. I just don't falls from the trees alight. I got a question, are you Are you just traveling there by some kind of genie magic or are you taking a machine? Because if you're taking a machine, my advice is just eat in the machine, bring your own food, don't go out for anything. No nothing. It's like when you travel, don't eat. Don't eat the local food for like the first couple of days for your body. Don't the water. And I don't know what old English for meeting Montezuma was, but a weird feeling. We're going to find out, Okay, so back to give it. Sorry, you know that we know that it's gross. Yeah, seed and not ideally positioned. No, Pallgate proper was one of six original gates into the city of London. This well was like right next to one of the six main gates into the city. So it's like, you know, when Butler's fancy parties are like at the door with Champagne, it's just that pump being like, welcome to London. Here's here's your well. All I can picture of the fifty thousand horses walking past this thing just emptying out. O. Yep, didn't That's what I want to know. What did it have a great was it cover? Did they try to put something over it? Well, we're getting there. Oh God. The earliest illustration of the pump, not the well, Mattie the worst case scenarios. She tells us. Yes, she was made in seventeen ninety eight, so like almost six hundred years after it was first made into a well, just a smidge west of where the original ancient well was located. The pump was constructed into an obelisk with large square cut stones and placed upon a heavy base with iron lamp brackets on all four faces and a large lantern on the top. A long, thin handle located on the side of the obelisk allowed the drinker to pump the water from beneath it. So it's already a portal to hill. As you're saying this, all I'm hearing is and a long thin hand is just there. Bodied just it's on it. You just shake it. It just holds your hand. It's like, oh, we met this way. It does the weird like the tickle your palm thing when you like hold it and shake its hand. It's just really gross. You're just like pull your hand away. At the time, the all Gate pump was used to measure distances into Essex and Middle Sex, like a greenwich kind of a thing, a mile marker. Yeah, once you see the pump, you know you're going somewhere. I don't know if it's good or bad. Yeah, I think it's to death. So, yeah, I'm at the pump and now I'm measuring the rest of I'm measuring my time. Once you're at the pump and you utilize this pump. I'm guessing that you can now measure your time span, like on the number of fingers you have. Yep, how far can I make it to Middlesex before I expected home? After I just ingested this water? She hasn't even said anything about the water. We're really jumping to conclusions. I know I haven't even got there yet. The pump provided free water for the locals and became noted as the spot that marked the start of the East End of London. It wasn't a unique structure in London by any means. Several were constructed around the city in an effort to provide clean water to the people for what it's worth, for what it's worth. So they tried. They tried for her. There was a good intention behind the Satanic symbol of the ovels, like free water. Children drinking you will absorb your bones. I mean, it's good for your bones. Is something bad going to have the bones? Keep that in mind, the good for your bones. In eighteen sixty it was mentioned in Charles Dickens, The Uncommercial Traveler when he wrote, quote, my day's business beckoned me to the East End of London. I had turned my face to that part of the compass and had got past allgate pump end quote in eighteen sixty eight, the pump was famous for its water, which was described as quote bright, sparkling and cool and of an agreeable taste. And I thought you were going to say a color. You were going to describe some kind of tone, some kind of tope. Mob So they liked the taste, and they liked it yep, relative to and it's sparkling? Is that debris? Why don't we discuss it? Well, water should sparkle. All right, I've got a new philosophy. If you go back in time and you're thirsty, just lay down with your mouth open and wait for it to rain or for a passing horse. Apparently, if you get that kink, you're great. God, I'm not into water sports, but I like what you did that, Maddie. It wasn't until a few years later that it earned the moniker of the Pump of Death. Like a week later, they're like, great, it tays awesome, and then everyone goes and dies. While this was like shortly after two weeks later. It sounds like a trip Advisor one eighty or something. Yeah, exactly, as we've seen throughout history. London has been home to numerous epidemics, and in June of eighteen sixty six, it was an outbreak of cholera, an outbreak that was traced back to the Allgate pump and the old well located below it. How many people drank at this thing regularly, like in a day? Do you figure? I mean the answer is already too many. No, it's if it's more than four, it's too much. Well, if it's at the intersection of two suburbs and an entrance into London, I'm guessing like hundreds every hundreds, if not thousands every day. I gotta get me a cup of that sweet, sweet, sparkly bright move all Gate juice to celebrate the crossing. Successful. Yeah, because you know you're traveling and you see you walk in and you see a water bomb. I can't wait to tell you the next part. Oh my god, Okay, funny story. After the outbreak started, they tried to figure out what was causing it. Sin did you say sin? She did say sin nice, And so for the next one hundred and fifty years everyone died of cholorade. So it turns out that the water supply which came from as far away as Hamstead that fed the pump was contaminated, but not in the way you would probably expect. Okay, how far away is Hampstead? Just for my own like as far away as like also, I think it's pronounced Hope five point seven miles. Still, there's a lot that a lot that is a lot of ground where probably lots of pups. That is. Hold on, I can do this. Thirty four Dodge caravans. There you go. I normally don't do those conversions live, but I'm so proud of you. I'll have to have a little lay down after this. You should Dodge is gonna be like, please keep our name out of doesn't it's a col caravan. You know how much cholera can you fit Dodge caravan? Oh that's disgusting. I will actually calculate that. And you know social So the water that was feeding through the pump contained sediment and calcium from dead bodies in the cemetery nearby, leaching into the water supply. Hold that wait wait wait, wait, so okay, everything you just said, plus they poultergeisted the water supply, so it tasted good because of long pig. Remember that quote unquote agreeable taste that I mentioned it was people. It was people seltzer. Apparently that was calcium, which, fun fact is in bones. I hate it. So now you know that dead people apparently are really tasty because of the calcium. Do you think Lacroix will come out with a Halloween flavor and it's just calcium? I hope. So Lacroix, you can reach out, your people can talk to arts always like, you know, the joke of its breathing, the essence of whatever it is. If we can get a beverage sponsor together, I'm happy to not describe cholera in any terms that they it's ghost flavored people question. Oh I just had a really awful thought too. If you drink water, water doesn't have calories. If you add flavoring of any kind to it, you're going to add calories. But if it's water with cholera in it, given whatever it is, you're going to tell us. And I don't even want to know the whole details, even though I already know all the details. Is cholera water calorie negative? I was just gonna say, does it like remove calories? I mean, it's obvious sauce, but well there's sauce. Apparently in a sense, yes, here we go. Okay, so all right, we signed up for this yet us I didn't I have to show up and she just does this every week. You are contractually obligated to be here, whether you want to or not. And I delight in it every single week. All told. The cholera epidemic in the East End of London claimed five thousand, five hundred and ninety six lives, but not just as a result of contaminated water. It was all so due to overcrowding. All right, I've already got so many questions. How long did this last? So you got six thousand people? How long did that take? For like, do people stop using it because they couldn't reach it anymore because there were too many dead people all over it? Or it's just a pile was tired of Crawley the dead people water all the time? What is this random hand doing sitting out here? I kind of want to play with it. Hey, what's squirting out on both ends of that guy and that guy and that guy and water from the well? If I could use that instead of drinking the well because she's there closer. The first London's first drinking fountain. It lasted a couple of years. It's the human centipedeo fountains gross. But that's still at least ten people a day. I mean that's a lot. Yeah minimum. Yeah. And they were like, h something might be wrong. Maybe they weren't drinking enough of the water. M Oh my lord, what a bad time for a high ration campaign. Right, No sponsorships. There lots of sponsorships for Ale. Water taste like teeth because it is just so many advertisements for Ale. They're like apple juice. We don't taste like dead people. We don't put any water in it. Every time you say that I'm just here ail like Ale. It does not care what ails you, because it is what ails you. Oh, I'm ever so curious. Please please tell me more. Yes. The pump was updated in eighteen seventy one to how it looks today. The stone bands in a wavy design were added, as well as a wolf's head spout that includes a push button, which was added between eighteen eighty and nineteen twelve. The wolf head supposedly symbolizes it as where the last wolf in London was slain, which I don't like and thrown into the well. I'm sure, yeah, with his family, all the other dead. Ye. Now everyone who drinks it becomes a werewolf. Ye cheskis. It's the like antherpet leakua. Only six thousand bottles available contact our people. So the outbreak in eighteen sixty six wasn't the only one to be caused by water. In the mid eighteen seventies, the water was once again polluted by organic matter of all kinds from the dead and the living. We talked about this. Wait, they converted it into a public toilet. Yeah, kind of still yep. The people of London continued to drink from the Aldgate pump, refusing to believe that the water was contaminated the old fake news, even when it started to quote unquote taste funny and contain more solid chunks than usual, which mean there were solid chunks before the sparkles. I'm telling you that the sparkles larking. That was larkxing poetic unnecessarily. I don't want to jump ahead, but is the sparkles Does it have something to do with decompensation and lie creation or something like that. Are they turning into soap down there? Probably? Like probably, yeah, oh man, in a different world, this thing could have turned into the first hand soap dispenser. Oh my god, you're right, and it would have come out of a cute little wolf head. Yeah that your hands get all usually clean, and then everyone accuses you being a witch. And then yeah, into the pump with you, into the pumps you go, and then you become the soapy full circle soap yep, circle of lie clean by what kills you? Yep. A local vicar took water samples in October of eighteen seventy five and sent them out to be examined. As you can probably imagine, the results were horrifying. The sand It Terry Record reported water as quote positively impure, contaminated and dangerous end quote. The water was being pulled from a stream that ran not only beneath several new cemeteries that were being built around North London, but it was also polluted with sewage and human remains. I can't go to London ever, I just I can't. If you wanted to make this the most polluted well of all time, I oh my god, you think, h and just think it's it's not the only one. Yeah, it's like you know what we should do with all these pipes. We should build cemeteries on top of these pipes. It goes back Saddam Hussein, Mussolini, Hitler, that guy, the guy the city, early London city planners, exactly just roasting in hell. It's like the person who made the bonebread recipe in France. Yep. I don't think it's any thing like that at all. That sounds more, way, more lovely. How many cemeteries dumped into this thing, I don't know, but it was a lot, because it sounded like at least three or four. Yeah, and I know zero is optimal. Several implies more than four, I think, so a decent amount. Yes, I'm just picturing traveling back to that age. Someone is there saying I'm going to connect a sample, and they bring up a little vial and they hand it and you close it and just throw it as far as you can. And I'm trying to remember when matches were invented, but you just start lobbing matches down into this thing. If that doesn't work, then when it was concrete and invented, and you bill because it sounds like if you had literally shoved a horse down into this hole and it got stuck by the legs and still had the tail and ass and everything sticking out of it. People would still try to drink out of that thing. Oh man, I'd be like, I don't know, Yeah, it's free. So yeah, well I'm not going to argue with that. Yeah. We love a good bargain, we do, even if it's gonna kill us. We're like sluici, I didn't pay for it. In an article published on April fifteenth, eighteen seventy six, it stated, and this is kind of long, it really paints a picture for you. Soa quote The bad state of the water from Algate Pump has again been brought before the notice of the Commissioners of Sewers by doctor Sedwick Saunders, who, with Professor Wanklin I love that name, state that the water, which is very much in the same condition as it was last year, contains an unusual quantity of solids in solution, namely about five times as much as ordinary London drinking water. Those solids consist of sulfates, chlorides and other salts of the alkales and alkaline earth. A water charged with so much of those mimicreal matters as that of the Allgate pump undoubtedly is ceases to be drinking water and passes into the category of mineral waters. Oh no, it's just fancy. Now, it's just so fancy. Oh they took a cheap beer and they made it premium by changing the content. Oh no. The specially objectionable peculiarity of the water of the Aldgate pump is that it is charged with effete organic matter, as is shown by the quantity of albuminoid ammonia which it yields, and also by the excessive quantities of free ammonia and of chlorine which it contains. The ammonia I get with the where the chlora Oh, man, you almost hope for chlorine or chloride chlorine. Oh, for God's sakes, Professor Wanklin says, quote, some years ago, I made an analysis of the sewage taken from the fleet ditch sewer. If I were called upon to make an imitation of the water flowing from Aldgate pump, I might submit the sewage of a fleet ditch to a slight filtration and have a fair imitation of the produce of the Aldgate pump. It is hardly necessary to state that the water of the Aldgate pump is not a safe beverage at any time, and that in periods of epidemic disease, it is highly dangerous. This pump ought to have been closed long ago on sanitary grounds end quote. But it was free. And you're correct. That was so beautifully illiterate and illiterative. And you know what, maybe that was the issue of the age. They talked way too pretty. They needed to be more direct. This thing has ghosts in it. Yeah, you're drinking ghosts. This is poison. It's witch water. Just pick something they're afraid of. You were literally drinking your butt water. That's that's all I needed to say. You're drinking. Buttwater, no, I think you ghost or something. I don't even think, Buttwater would turn them off. That's true. Say it was a sin. The medical officer also states, quote the coming warm weather will materially increase the risk attached to the use of the water for drinking and domestic purposes. And I cannot shrink from my duty of again pressing the subject upon your attention and earnestly entreating you to take prompt action with a view of closing forever. This subtle but certain source of disease. Should the custodians of the pump consent to the closing of the well, it might be a public convenience to erect a standpipe to be supplied on the constant services with the new river main, or the pump itself might give place to a drinking fountain for man and beast end quote but which river? Because the Thames around this point had that feces crisis, there was a historical the feces, the Parliamentary feces crisis. Yeah, like the the Great Stink of eighteen fifty eight. You're right, whoa look at me? Yeah, I mean they didn't realize that you could get sick by ingesting gross stuff. They thought that by smelling it you might die. So they thought Parliament might die. And then Parliament put curtains in their window to try to stop the stink well and behold, curtains didn't work. And in the summer they said it would get kind of crusty enough to the point where you could walk out on it like it was a frozen lake. Remember they put lie in it to try to like kill off all the growth bacteria. Yeah, yeah, I should have just set that thing on fire. I mean then they had a great play would have still been burning for quite some time. Yeah, then it would have been the Great Fire of eighteen fifty great smelly Fire of eighteen fifty eight Europe's Cuyahoga River. Come see smell flee? What kind of like gas would that last part of the article is acting under these representations, The commissioners of sewers will forthwith put themselves into communication with the ward in parochial authorities and take such other steps as maybe necessary for the closing compulsory if maybe of the pump end quote. Damn, that is some real noncommittal stuff right there, right, I feel like the sewer commissioners are like, no, that sounds really hard. That sounds like a lot of work. I don't really like that, guys. I don't really want to talk to him, and like, it's free water. So you know what's amazing about this. I'm actually just finishing up. I'm about to record an episode on a sewer disaster in Mexico, and it was horrifying. I mean it was, it was large scale horrifying, but it is nothing compared to the reality of even walking past this pump. I imagine walking down this street is got some kind of dangerous so I wish you're watching nature was pretty spot on, because the water continued to kill hundreds of people and until finally an investigation was launched by the Medical Offer of Health for the city, after which the pump was finally closed. After this, the water supply was immediately fixed when it was moved slightly west from its previous location and connected to the mains water supply by the New River Company of Islington. The pump continues to be a beloved landmark, although it was permanently shut down in the twentieth century. Why so late, good lord? Yes? Why three hundred years? Yeah? The Aldgate Pump received Grade two status in nineteen fifty, protecting it as a National landmark. There's some other fun things about it. Yeah, but they were afraid if they destroyed it. All the demons were committedly, that's a fair assessment. The hor crooks for somebody, no one good. Have you've seen their prim over there? Yeah? This is true and their new king. But I digress. It was restored in twenty nineteen by the Heritage of London Trust. Over the years, a great deal of the structure needed to be fixed. The bands around the pump were worn down, there were hoarse cement patch jobs, and part of the stone base had been broken. The lantern at the top of the obelisk had also been lost, so it needed to be replaced. It's believed that the gas lamp vanished in nineteen twenty seven when a bus hit the pump and almost destroyed it, although there were also reports that it might have been lost or stolen sometime between nineteen hundred and nineteen o seven. The buster tried so hard to kill the evil, and he just couldn't. He couldn't do it. He tried so hard. And they repaired this thing constantly, and immediately I just picture anybody just lifting it up, sticking their head over it, and then just immediately just throwing up into the thing, and everybody's watching and nobody cares. They think this is fine. Yep. There's a there's an old saying that a friend of mine said. He said, what do you get if you take a bucket of feces and you put in some wine, and you say, well, feces? And then he said, what do you get if you have a bucket of wine and you put in a drop of feces? He said, the answer is feces still because it doesn't take a lot. No, it doesn't take much. And this thing is a dispenser. Yep had a button after I had a button too. Holts went through great pains to restore all Gate pump to its former glory as close to the original design as possible, not working ironically reconstructing the obelisk with a type of limestone. This is ironic because limestone is primarily made of calcium carbonate, which gives water and quote agreeable taste end quote. I hated all that kind water that Okay. The reason why he did it is because he's the one that there it's powering. Yep, that's his arrow, that's his art rocks. Oh no, no, no, the guy that made it out a live the guy that the limestone the worst. So then the ghost can go through it and he's like, this is mine. Further improvements included installing a new lantern that was handmade to the original specs with an upgrade to electricity. The pump handle has been locked in place, thank god, and the large basin that once sat below the mouth of the pump has been replaced with a small dream. If you had an outhouse that was full, and I mean like over the top full, just like a mountain stick. It's done, yep, And I say, you know what, I'm putting some sighting on there and a rather lovely weather vane on top and it and it has hbo Now it's still it's still full of shit. You still need to burn it, Yeah, still need to burn it. So I love all these little like flourishes and whatnot they do to make it more be beautiful and alive. They should just call to sing a suicide booth. They should seriously. An interpretation panel was also added to part of the obelisk to share its history to passers by. The plaque reads as follows quote. The Aldgate Pump, a well for fresh drinking water, has been on this site since the thirteenth century. The Aldgate Pump has been a landmark point for visitors to East London, mentioned by Charles dickens An in traditional rhyme and song in eighteen seventy six. The pumps water was connected to the mains water supply after the old well was found to be contaminated. The current Portland Stone obelisks dates from the eighteenth century. The brass wolves Head spout is nineteenth century. The lantern on top is a handmade replica of the original, lost around nineteen hundred, repaired and restored in twenty nineteen by the City of London Corporation with the assistance of the Heritage of London Trust and a gift from Miss Anthea Gray. And it killed a bunch of people, idiots. Yeah, somebody needs to take a sharpie to that thing and do a little crossing out. Little you know, little adjustments murdered people, just a few notes, murdered a few more people. On that note, I will leave you with a popular song from the height of the epidemic that goes a little something like this quote, flow down, false rivulet to the sea, Thy sewage wave deliver no longer Will I quaff from thee forever and forever. The dust of citizens of yore who dwelt beside the river, and leakages of sewers pour into thy stream forever. A thousand hands may pump from me, a thousand pails deliver. They're sparkling drafts, but not to me forever and forever. Oh, let them lock thy nozzle up and drain thee to the river. Nor any mortal fill his cup again from thee forever. Why did everybody love this thing so much? Shut up? For real? They had cannons back there. They should have practiced cannons on it. They should have And that song, poo poo, what do you do? Off to the sea? Bye? After the sea. We're drinking dead people. That's fine, it's fine. The dust of your Oh my lord, it was the bones that was the dead. Yes, got it? Okay. So a second short episode I'm working on right now deals with lead poisoning, and now I just I'm just would I rather have lead poisoning? Or would I rather live in London? So now I want to do some kind of special So do I want to would you rather live in Victorian London? Or would you rather live in Flint? Who still doesn't have clean drinking water? By the way, I've been saying that since something a kid. Yep, oh god damn it, Lindsey, Flint is the Aldgate pump. It's America's Algate pump. It doesn't have a lot of dead horses though now yet. So we kind of like brushed over cholera, and you know, lots of cholera share some cholera stuff. So you woke up in the middle of the night and you accidentally drank out of your toilet, would you know what to do? Cholera is a bacteria that it's one of the most common bacterias in the world. There's thousands and thousands and thousands of choleras, the same way as we have thousands and thousands of coronaviruses that have been around longer than we as a species have. There's only I think two, maybe three strains of cholera that affect us. So we all have cholera in our guts, but we don't have those very specific strains that just turn everything on. And when I say turn everything on, what I mean to say is cholera gets into your body. It could take a couple hours, it could take four days, but it attacks the gut. And what it does in the gut it creates this like a hydrostatic shock that is a result of the idea that this thing wants so much hydration, it wants every ounce of fluid in your body. So the way cholera works, as you think of these diseases as smart, like they make you sneeze or they make you do this whatever to pass them on, Cholera takes all the fluid from your body. It will take the fluid from your eyes, it will take fluids from your skin, It'll take fluids out of your blood. It takes fluids out of your fat. So when a person gets cholera, they completely emaciate and just completely disappear into themselves, except like fat deposits stay and so they look really lumpy. They don't look shrunken. They look like they were attacked by something weird, like they were melted in the sun. But then what happens is because you know, how much do you think you could lose out of your mouth and your butt just in water in a day, plus or minus twenty pounds? What do you think more or less? More? Okay, I'll do Devil's advocate and do less forty four pounds wow of liquid feces flying out of you. Because it just wants to spread itself as a germ on every surface. So when it's on the ground, people walk on it, and they bringing them their homes. Flies land on it and then land on surfaces. It travels from surface to surface. You get it on your hands. Now you're cooking with it. You're touching food like it's just you know everything we know about coronavirus, only more because nobody wants cholera. And so they used to call it the blue death because once your blood turns into it turns into this kind of a black tar that you try to throw up. You know, it's just coming out of everywhere. And because your blood is turned into this really thick people say syrup, but it's really more like a ketchup, like it's non autonium blood now, which newtonium blood is the kind of stuff you want. You want the stuff that kind of like it flies around you know, you can't wait to get out of you, except in this case it's only the cholera. It's only it's all your moisture and it comes flying out of you. And what do they say? What the funny thing is, Because it's a bacteria, you can fight it off with antibiotics, but once you have it, they don't even care about the antibotics. They'll start them right away, but really all they really care about is getting as much fluid into you as possible. So fluid or cecitation is really the cure because they just need to keep you alive. If you weighed two hundred pounds and you crapped fifty of them a day, it won't work. But eventually you have to liquefy your bones and just start spraying out bone dust or whatever, and then you'd be inside out. You'd weigh zero and you'd be dead, assuming that you dive previous to that. But you've only you're on a clock, right, and you have to deliver all. The boss is screaming he wants forty four pounds of feces a day, So you need to replace those fluids because again, it'll take it from the grossest place as possible and it just leaves you a wreck. Yeah, yeah, I mean, well, no, I agree with you. No, that was really gross and really disgusting. Now, obviously dead bodies is a fine way to get a cholera bug into you. Remember before when you were saying, this is right at the intersection where two the subdivisions meet, and so it was, you know, kind of a kind of a place, a kind of a destination. They say, oh, I'm gonna get a glass of water. I just survived a bridge crossing. It's covered in dead horses. Fifty thousand horses work to day in London. A horse will live for like thirty years. How long do you think a horse in London will live, like a really old horse two years, two to three years. Yeah, and when they die, like when anything dies in London, it falls over and get And what happens is they have people who come to cut up animals and people and what not to move them because they're so heavy. But what they realize is that's a pan and the ass cutting up bodies. So what they did ready not just something I'm very sorry for this. They just poured assid on them or something. No, they just waited until they softened up and bloated, because once they had putrified, then they could just really saw through this thing. What would happen to let them know that the thing was ready to be cut up. Picture you're on your way to whatever fancy opera. Perhaps you're in your finest. You're walking through the streets. You've got your heels on because there's obviously feces there no matter what. And you're walking by and you hear some flies and you look down. You're like, oh, there's some large furred bag with some who and they would explode on people, just blast outward. Too much gas in a bag that loses its ability to hold it in bow. And the scary thing is people would get scared and they would look and you know what they would happen. They would have liquid horse and their unblinking eyes and their streaming mouth and nostrils and maybe even their ears, who knows, but they they got off no, because they didn't believe in it back then. All you really need to do is just a good wiping. If you couldn't wipe stuff off well and you weren't discolored by it too too much. People who are okay with it, it's kind of a thing. So oh sorry, I wasn't just saying that. To be gross comes around to a circle. Okay, I'm gonna guess that that's where a lot of the cholera would have come from. And that's discounting the three to four cemeteries and the dead regular dead body parts reining in and this next and next and next and next, and all the other ways that crap and poo and pee and dead feces and whatnot came flying into this thing. It's just all the exploding bodies everywhere on the way to the pump. Because washing hands wasn't a thing So if you have five thousand and six thousand people using this pump, they're all touching the pump, and that the bacteria can live on the surface, and it's constantly being replenished. So every new person who comes who previously didn't have cholera now does because the next thing they do, they're gonna put their hands in their eyes, their mouth, their nose, you know, because it's really difficult for humans not too And that's that they don't even need to take a drink, and they could catch cholera just by being there, just touching the same surfaces. Well, not only that, but a lot of families would live in like these tiny one room tenements, so they'd be like six to eight people in one space. So if one person has cholera, you all have cholera. Yeah, Like you're basically just putting like yourself into little like death boxes. Basically, would you rather share a room with a family all infected with cholera or have to get humans centipeded for a long weekend be in the room? Yeah, I'd die faster. Yeah, actually that's probably true. I don't want to ingest anybody's choleraadebas go unconscious at some point from dehydration. Well, neither of you seem excited about either option, so I would rather die in a box. I'll take the walking curse. Actually sounds really good right now. I'll take ye old diabetes. Yeah again, you like show up as I'm sitting there in a room with like eight people who are all just like shitting and vomiting all over each other, and then you're just like diababies, so you just like walk outta goabees? Can I tell you something? I could feel my blood pressure rising during most of this episode, and then once the reality of its sinking in, I can feel it actually dropping below what it normally is and feel just like, oh, just got all lightheaded. Yeah, this must be swooning. You go. So this week's podcast plug is actually going to be doomsday podcast? So well, why don't you tell our listeners about your show? All right, I'll do my best, although, and I say this every single time, I'm terrible at plugging. So here we go Doomsday, History's most dangerous podcast. That's the easiest way to look this thing up. Doomsday is how to explain everybody's so grossed out by It's it's your anxiety thoughts collected with actual disasters. It's basically I tell horror stories about true life events throughout History Masters, but these are disasters that have gone under the radar. They've been forgotten, no one's ever heard of them. But there's wonderful life lessons to be learned from these horrific disasters. And I do them with full recreations as much as I can to try to really drive the point home about how dangerous these things can be. And then I also try to educate just in the off chance that you might ever catch cholera, that you might know what to do. Ye just save a life. And it's been working and I've been loving it, and it's it's a lot of fun. I would invite anyone to come listen. Just look up History's Most Dangerous Podcast wherever podcasts are available. You can find us on socials at doomsday Pod on all the Socials, or you can fire me an email to doomsday Pod at gmail dot com. It's hard, it's the worst part. Tell us about the inside of your stomach. Lining shedding itself great, no problem. How many minutes do you want tell us about the show that you do it on Internet? I speak and people listen. Sometimes this episode make not think make so good. Well, we have a really good would you rather listener question? This week? Is it from? It comes from the mystery people that run the Yield Crime out of Context Twitter account. Are you familiar with them? Brad? Have you seen this? Oh? I've seen it. Oh it's a thing. It's a thing, and I love it. Would you rather fart every time you laugh or belch every time you're introduced to someone new? Hello, does the fart smell? I would imagine it does, because the most fart smell belt does the burp linger? I think it depends on what you ate for the day. Okay, belts safer to say, excuse me? After that, I'm going burp. Yeah, I'm a great burper and I don't get to do it enough. My daughter hates it so much that I've trained myself not to burp. But I mean, if it was some kind of if the people that you will Crime out of Context or dying to know, then yeah I want to burp. I mean I'd fart every time, I because laughter is already contagious. But if you're sitting there, it's just fun, just laugh, farting, just crop dusting, people. Everybody's going to be laugh farting and leaving, obviously, but laughing as they're making their way out or at least just getting away from you. Nobody would watch a comedy special with you ever see, And I think I would go for the farting. I would do the farting every time you laugh, just because it would add to the comedic factor. Hey, I would love to do alternate weeks, Like I'd love to go to the movies for a week. Just be that guy just working, just comedy guard. Yeah, just get improv every single month, laughing at my own jokes. Does that comedians know they've made? It is whether or not there's a smell to the room, someone laughing and be like prosy. Great. It was terrific in there. I could barely breathe. It smelled like color water in there. Somebody kill us. So there you go, the people of the old crime out of context. Thank you for that question. Alter netweeks, alternetweeks, that's the correct answer. I want networking and then just entertaining and networking and entertaining and I switch there you go, All right, what is something good you'd like to share? Who wants to start? Not I said, the fly, not it touch my nose, Okay, and go. So I traveled for work for the first time with my new job, and I one of my new coworkers for the first time. He was really cool and one of the highlights of the week was this really adorable bartender named Dean who worked at the hotel bar at the top floor of this building in Jefferson City. And the first night we were there, we were like my laptops striking wires from talking to him, and he was like, the most haunted house in America is just down the street. They put it out, and he's like, and then there's a hot penn oftentiary where bunch of windows were blown out and for a couple hundred bucks you can spend the night. I'd like just told us about like all the horrific things by us, and how like he doesn't feel safe at night. We both kind of just immediately fell in love with him and would go upstairs every day. He was like there just hanging out and he was gonna go on a lovely vacation with his partner to the Carolinas. So hopefully hed, oh my God, to the Carolinas, which I guarantee you are more haunted than Jefferson City, Missouri. And he's gonna go through like Pigeon Forge and stuff too. Oh my god. Yep. So this dude loves creepy things. And so I was like, okay, have fun. And the most haunted place in America is a Bend breakfast. It's an Airbnb. Obviously we should go to there, now, come on, you know you don't want to do was go to an Airbnb beside a penitentiary that a tornado hit and didn't get and didn't eliminate. Yeah, the tornado was like this one's too good. I can't I can't knock it down. It's too high, can't touch it. Sorry, there's too many ghosts, it's pre many, too much respect. The ghost protected it. You do you really did? You? What's your something good? Brad? My something good actually is a text that came from my wife earlier. Nope, okay. I was just in the car in the parking lot. I was on the phone, and I looked up to see a Muslim family who had been parked facing me. The youngest kid, girl about eight, not realizing, not realizing I'm sitting here, points to our car. And says, wow, look at all the time that car's been hit because my car died and my mechanic lent me one of his, which was already pretty smashed up. And then I went ahead, like I don't know, two days after getting it and gone into my own car accident. Great, maybe that's like the write of passage. Yeah, you get those the reporting collision sticker on there and just whatever with the crill this little girl. It was like, wow, I never seen anything like that, not on TV. Such a pick me up. That's awesome. What's your something good? Yeah, Lindsay. I did a recording with John and Sean from rid It on Wiki the other night, and I had a lot of fun talking to them on their show. I love talking to them. I don't talk to them enough. And they let me know that one of the previous episodes that I was on where they did a segment called Confessionals where they would share confessions that got progressively worse. Yeah, apparently it's one of their most requested episodes, so they wanted to bring me back on for another one because I was like, yes, I want to make people were really uncomfortable by talking about whatever the confession is it's my favorite thing to do. Ever, that's so on that note, let's shut her down. Let's do it. A great way to support the show if you want to help out but can't do so financially, is to leave us a five star rating and review on Apple Podcasts, Pod Chaser, Good Pods Podcast Addict is another one, or really wherever you can leave a rating and review. This week's comes from Good Pods from our friend Zach. He leaves us a five star rating and says get ready for ghosts and goblins, secret societies, demons, murder, and yes, even cryptids. Lindsay and Madison are hilarious host. I've liked every episode I've heard, especially the most recent one on Bigfoot. Give them a listen. This is probably one from a while ago, because we haven't done a Bigfoot episode in a while. We did a couple, but I'm assuming it's the actual Bigfoot one where like we talked about the path of Yeah, the chop job, Bigfoot War of what here was that? Oh my cod I love the reality of the timeline that had a big Foot war at some point. They don't teach you anything useful in school. I had all the good stuff they really don't have eighteen fifty five. I would have rather lived there than the obelisk drinking cone that was about the same time. That's fair, I would I would rather live in North America, naked in the woods, try not to get killed by big feet. Ye. Then even visit London, and the big feet smelled better than Victorian London too, probably because they knew better than to drink their own feces. This is true. On that note. As always, I'm Lindsay, and I'm Madison, and I'm also Brad, and we will see you next time with another tale as old as crime.